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CSA payers who don't pay on time

01-16-2008   #1
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Does anyone else have this problem??

My Ex pays his child support but not always on time and it always seems to be the months when I need it on time the most, Like this month. I have 3 kids back to school one highschool and 2 primary, booklists are over $1000 alone, My car rego is due next month, I go back to study in february and have enrollment fees to pay and books to buy and it's just after xmas. My Ex can afford to take the kids to Tassie for a holiday tomorrow (for 5 days) but can't pay the child support on time (arsehole) it has left me in a sticky situation with no money until the CSA payment comes in.

It's horrible living from fortnight to fortnight waiting on payments to go into the bank just so you can buy food to eat (if you have any money left after paying bills)

I would dearly love to be able to take my kids places during the holidays but simply cannot afford to and my EX whinges to them all the time about how much he pays me (it's for your kids arsehole not me!)

anyway had my little rant sorry folks. I get very angry when he does this to his kids. He thinks it hurts me when really all it does is hurt the kids because I can't give them the treats they would like.

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01-21-2008   #2
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Hi Cute/bossy, I'm probably gonna get heaps for this, but anyhoo! I know how you feel, and it sucks to be polite & put it moderately! How difficult is it for the payments from him to be 'Automaticly' coming out of the bank a/c? You have 'Hit The Nail On The Head' if you like by saying that he can go away for a number of days, yet not make the Mainteneance payment. So, who is serving who's 'Best Interests'? Well, it certainly isn't him hey! You're right Cuteb, he is serving his own, especially if he tends to say anything to the kids that is negative against you. Why do they do that? It's So Unfair, So Cruel, and So Immature! But something I have heard, is that if the Maintenance payments go thru IRD, and it is all recorded, in one way or another, so any miss-payments have to be made up by Said Party. I'm not sure if you have an 'Arrangement' privately, or are going thru IRD but you can always go to them and request that it is done that way, as they will make sure each payment is met. Anyway, I feel for you, and urge you to 'Stand' your ground with him, stick to your guns, and as I have had to do also, keep reminding him, that it is not your money, it is for his children. Hang in there, it will come back around on him!

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01-21-2008   #3
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I am presuming ur IRD is the same as our CSA (Child Support Agency) and Yes I have asked them to take it directly out of his wages and not wait for him to pay it but because he makes an effort and pays some on time they refuse to do this for me. He not only complains to the kids about how much he pays in child support but also that (apparently) I get more money than he does with all my payments ...... What a crock of shyte, he has been to china for a holiday with his GF and now he has taken the kids to Tassie. I don't have any money to buy food for when the kids come home or to stock the cupboards for back to school as the child support he did pay went on bills. Now I have another lot of bills to pay so my next weeks pension will be all gone again and still nothing left to buy food. I will make a visit to the food banks and see what I can get to see us through.

Its not always the male who rips off the receiving child support partner, plenty of women do it too hence why the title read payers.

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01-23-2008   #4
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i was working in a casual position. 2 hours a week 1 week for 5 weeks in a row and 56 hours a week for 3 weeks in a row then back to 2 hour a week, in the end child support was sending me broke! so i told my ex that i wasnt going to pay it. because csa payments are worked out on a yearly income not weekly but they judge you on a weekly basis for a whole year . so when i did my tax return she received one years csa payments in one! as apposed to sending me broke when i only earned $200 a fortnite.
i was never apposed to paying child support, just apposed to how it affects the payers working on a casual basis, the whole system needs to be re-addressed as it is unfair to both the payer's and payee's.

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01-23-2008   #5
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my ex pays me $37.00 a fortnight, thats good compared to $12.00 a fortnight, so im rich, $37.00 buys me bread, milk, some meat, and a breakfast ceral, its a joke!!!!

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I am presuming ur IRD is the same as our CSA (Child Support Agency) and Yes I have asked them to take it directly out of his wages and not wait for him to pay it but because he makes an effort and pays some on time they refuse to do this for me. He not only complains to the kids about how much he pays in child support but also that (apparently) I get more money than he does with all my payments ...... What a crock of shyte, he has been to china for a holiday with his GF and now he has taken the kids to Tassie. I don't have any money to buy food for when the kids come home or to stock the cupboards for back to school as the child support he did pay went on bills. Now I have another lot of bills to pay so my next weeks pension will be all gone again and still nothing left to buy food. I will make a visit to the food banks and see what I can get to see us through.

Its not always the male who rips off the receiving child support partner, plenty of women do it too hence why the title read payers.

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01-23-2008   #6
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I hear Ya Shams, The Government Agency's all need a big shake up. The worst part of it all is people get away with fraud simply because of the system these agency's have in place.

Early last year I contacted Child Support about a discrepency in a claim my ex put in. He claimed back over $500 worth of school uniform that was purchased 2 years prior to the claim, I informed CSA that neither my ex or myself were out of pocket as a benevolent fund that had been set up for us when we were still together paid for the Uniform with a cheque, however My ex was the one who handed the cheque to the school so he was the one the receipt was made out to. He claimed it all back through CSA and they allowed him to do so simply because he had a RECEIPT.
I explained to csa exactly how he came by the money but they didn't care so again my children missed out on what was rightfully theirs. I also contacted the People who set up the fund and told them What my ex had done, they weren't happy But guess what they let him stay in the Lodge.

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01-24-2008   #7
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I have a 15 year old daughter and her father pays $7.14 per fortnight.The biggest joke is that his mother is a millionaire who gives the women he left me for and went onto to marry, money but my daughter gets nothing.It annoys me that the now exwife goes on about how she had so much more money being married to a guy on the pension with a rich mother than she does living with a guy on the pension and living in govt housing.My daughter now works while i have left work and gone back to study.We never had the same opportunity that she has and yet she has never worked in 18 yrs and all she does is complain about how hard done by she is supposed to be.I am proud of the fact I have always worked to provide for us and i am always grateful for what we have. I get the best feeling in the world when i look around at all that we have and i also realise that what goes around comes around.When you believe that only good will come to you that is what you will receive.We have struggled for 15 years and now finally we have a wonderful life,great home,money to pay the bills and buy food.It has been worth the struggle knowing it has made us better people for it.I honestly believe what you want will come to you when you believe.The kids grow up and they are not stupid, they know what is right and what is wrong.All that matters in the end is that you do the best you can for your kids and be proud of what you have achieved in life and the beautiful children that you have.Blessings are your always
Gabrielle

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01-25-2008   #8
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Rainbow angel, you are so right, My kids already see what their father is doing and they don't like it. I am back at Tafe getting certificates to hopefully secure a great job and one day be financially independant. My Ex has a Girlfriend with plenty of money, she buys things for him and the kids but none of those items are allowed to come to mums. I have just collected 3 lots of Booklists for back to school (over $1000 worth) and still had to buy extra supplies like school bags, shoes, more stationary etc. My eldest daughter still needs a school bag and a few other things and I told her to get dad to buy them as I don't have the money, he has told her he will claim them back from CSA. This is what My ex does, he doesn't have the guts to speak to me about it because he knows I will show him just how much I have had to pay out. CSA are making changes this year and until those changes come in I have no idea how it will affect or benefit me in any way.

I just hope that when I complete my studies I can secure a well paying job and the kids and I can tell their father exactly what we think of him. I also hope that the CSA implements a better way of keeping track of payments and makes it fair to both parties. The problem at the moment is the payee is not allowed to work over a certain amount of hours or have a partner without it effecting the payments BUT the Payer can do whatever they like as long as they submit a tax return every year so the payments can be adjusted.

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